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kelly1142	W...T...F? I can't take it....		Lead	[-]
Posts: 5956 01/02/09 11:58:32 ezOP	Tags : None In no particular order, today the character formerly known as Todd Manning.... 1. Was painfully stupid - to the point that Marty had to SPELL OUT she was playing him 2. Actually whined "owwww" when Marty slapped him. 3. Cowered and shrunk away from Marty, not looking at her, while she yelled at him. 4. Whined. 5. Flung himself off a roof because Marty asked him to. And honestly, I can't even blame TsJ entirely because really, it's the writing and the directing as much as anything. WTF? Kelly The Burning Lake ~ Todd and Tea Online Complicated - Paul and Emily Online
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Daisy373	Just jump.	#1	[url]	[-]
Posts: 30 01/02/09 13:28:21	I watched it in real time today and I think I have never cared less whether Todd lived or died. All I could say was, "Just jump. Please, put us all out of our misery and just jump already." On the upside, at least it looks like the one T left with a spine is on tomorrow! Is it wrong to hope she doesn't try too hard to save him? Maybe he could just stay in a nice open-ended coma for a while? I think maybe if he was silent I might actually be able to stand him. ...Ay yi yi. Pray for the band, Latoya. It's gonna be a long, sad tour if I have to continue to watch this Todd imposter for too long.
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jules		#2	[url]	[-]
Posts: 20 01/02/09 18:37:03	i watched. and thought the same things, kel. the shrinking away thing actually made me sick. this isnt todd. or if it is, im hoping his face hit some rocks on the way down and he's in the hospital bandaged up...and when they remove the bandages...VIOLA! roger howarth as todd manning. im still a bit of a hopeless hopeful.
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TMac246	Just do it already!	#3	[url]	[-]
Posts: 493 01/02/09 18:55:41	Okay, so Todd jumps for Marty but he couldn't jump when he was on the roof of the hospital?
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Cabbie Esq	OMG...	#4	[url]	[-]
Posts: 84 01/02/09 19:39:18	That was unbelievable. I'm so sorry - Real Todd would have pushed Marty off the roof. GMAFB! I will say, SH was great. Against RH that would have been awesome. Mano-a-mano. And yes, the writing had a lot to do with it. But still, TSJ played it WAY TOO WIMPY. Last Edited By: Cabbie Esq 01/02/09 19:42:42. Edited 1 time.
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Cabbie Esq	Exactamundo!	#5	[url]	[-]
Posts: 85 01/02/09 19:41:17	If ever there was a time when Todd would have offed himself, that was the time. Also before, with Rebecca. Today was just dumb.
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deedeeTNTfan	That was just cringeworthy...(possible spoiler talk within)	#6	[url]	[-]
Posts: 229 01/02/09 19:52:04 Member	The show has written TSJ's version of Todd as whiny before, but never have I seen him this bad...it really is hard to care about this guy...I remember how upset I was when he jumped in the river after the cabin story with Rebecca...today I could care less...our gal looks good again tomorrow and I think she has "words" with Blair, so hopefully they will continue with Tea still being shown as the smart, feisty one, but who knows...the word on the street is that Blair gives Todd mouth to mouth after John fishes him of the drink...so knowing FL is short term, it could be the beginning of the unfathomably never ending Todd/Blair merry go round. I've suspected from the beginning that in the end Todd would wind up back with Blair since the show honestly seems to believe that this couple isn't as Tired and Boring as they actually are...but he way I see it, as long as Tea continues to be kick ass in court, and sneaky and conniving in her other supporting storyline, I'm good. I just love it how FL is putting a lot of these actors on the show to shame with the intensity she approaches her part...I can't wait to see her acting opposite ES when she asks Vicky not to give up on mentally ill Todd. (Tea must do a good job, because other spoilers I've read say that Vicky can't turn her back on Todd and his mental illness)
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TMac246	You hit the nail on the head	#7	[url]	[-]
Posts: 494 01/02/09 20:08:49	A big part of the unbelievableness of it is the writing. Either RC is not the Todd fan he said he was or he is really writing this in the hopes that Roger comes back. I'll even go so far as to say in preperation for his return. I honestly can't believe that he is writing this as the real Todd Manning, not after being with the show as long as he has.
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TracyA5	Owww?	#8	[url]	[-]
Posts: 79 01/03/09 09:17:21	Actually whined "owwww" when Marty slapped him. I could not freaking believe I heard that coming out of Todd's mouth. "Owwww"????? For real? The real Todd Manning would've been 3 steps ahead of Marty or anyone else in Llanview, for that matter, and plotting to take them all down and then put it on the front page of The Sun! I am loving FL's return, but TSJ's Todd is just a joke.
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Daisy373	Poor Susan.	#9	[url]	[-]
Posts: 31 01/03/09 09:36:59	She was really great, and if it had been RH opposite her...it could have been powerful. I feel so bad for her because everytime she has a confrontational scene with TSJ it's like she's acting in a vacuum. I keep seeing comments elsewhere that they have such great chemistry, but I'm just not seeing it. They're mismatched in the same way he's mismatched with FL. I will say that in the little snippets of Marty's "captivity" that I watched on YouTube, TSJ was pretty good with the light and fuffy stuff. Is it just dark that he doesn't do well? Dark and painful for him always seems to translate to blank and empty. I know a lot of it comes from the writing and direction, but it's beginning to seem like pandering to me. All of the people who got the vapors over Tarty are now being appeased by Marty finding her bitch bone again and sticking it to Todd. All of which makes sense, except for Todd's reaction to it in this case. He's been submissive to Marty before, like the night of their fireside chat. But in this case, we're supposed to believe that he believed she wanted to reconcile and now he finds that she's scammed him...betrayed him. Real Todd doesn't like to be betrayed, so his reaction in the face of betrayal (even despite his guilt) doesn't ring true to me. I could even see him jumping off the building (knowing he wouldn't really die, of course), but not to appease her, to punish her. And it would only punish her if she really loved him (which is debatable at this point, but I feel safe in saying she certainly wouldn't admit it if she still did). I just keep hoping for some substance in him. (I know, I should stop that.)
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Cabbie Esq	Yeah...	#10	[url]	[-]
Posts: 86 01/03/09 11:39:58	You know, I CAN envision this entire story with realTodd. I can see that he's been really out of touch with reality. Yes, I could see the total slide from delusion to severe suicidal depression. But Todd would have ALWAYS shown fire when faced with such a depth of manipulation. I could have seen him react beyond harshly with Marty, THEN walked away and try to kill himself. And that fall off the roof was really stupid looking. Ugh. What I'm hating is that I'm watching a good tale. This could have been SOOOOOO good. SH was incredible. TSJ made her look over-the-top dumb.
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Cabbie Esq	Right Daisy...	#11	[url]	[-]
Posts: 88 01/03/09 11:44:48	Wow, Todd being betrayed is a huge trigger for him, especially facing Marty! This is just so sad.
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Frank Morgan		#12	[url]	[-]
Posts: 19 01/04/09 09:12:00	That's it for me too. TsJ acting choice was way to passive for his charater being played. Not even a Toddian sneer. Trev, you are the STAR of this show, quit acting like a supporting actor. Ya'll liking Viki and Charlie? I do
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TMac246	I do	#13	[url]	[-]
Posts: 495 01/04/09 12:14:03	They are probably the only bright spot left on this show besides Tea's return.
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HenleGirl		#14	[url]	[-]
Posts: 6 01/04/09 20:29:45	So I wasn't the only one wishing he'd just go ahead and jump. At first, I was like "Poor Todd. Marty's being really mean with this trick." But after awhile, his obtuseness and wimpiness was irritating and I found myself wishing Marty would just go ahead and push him off the roof to stop the whining and cowering. A word of encouragement can make the difference between giving up or going on.
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W...T...F? I can't take it....	01/02/09 11:58:32	kelly1142
Just jump.	01/02/09 13:28:21	Daisy373
Re: W...T...F? I can't take it....	01/04/09 20:29:45	HenleGirl
Re: W...T...F? I can't take it....	01/02/09 18:37:03	jules
Just do it already!	01/02/09 18:55:41	TMac246
Exactamundo!	01/02/09 19:41:17	Cabbie Esq
OMG...	01/02/09 19:39:18	Cabbie Esq
You hit the nail on the head	01/02/09 20:08:49	TMac246
Poor Susan.	01/03/09 09:36:59	Daisy373
Right Daisy...	01/03/09 11:44:48	Cabbie Esq
That was just cringeworthy...(possible spoiler talk within)	01/02/09 19:52:04	deedeeTNTfan
Owww?	01/03/09 09:17:21	TracyA5
Yeah...	01/03/09 11:39:58	Cabbie Esq
Re: W...T...F? I can't take it....	01/04/09 09:12:00	Frank Morgan
I do	01/04/09 12:14:03	TMac246